Got smacked :-( - Everglades Exploration Network2024-03-28T16:40:31Zhttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/forum/topics/got-smacked?commentId=2541133%3AComment%3A58364&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI think that I might have a d…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2014-02-19:2541133:Comment:602742014-02-19T00:33:41.721ZJeremy Clarkhttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/JeremyClark
<p>I think that I might have a desease. On the way back from these trips, I think that I am done, never going back. Then I find myself noticing the guide book on the shelf, looking at my kayak in the yard covered in ice. Then I start checking on here and other sites looking for your stories. Next, I actually get the guide book and maps out, wishing that I didn't have obligations to hold me back. Everyone that went in November apparently has the same desease. So, in a few years, we will be…</p>
<p>I think that I might have a desease. On the way back from these trips, I think that I am done, never going back. Then I find myself noticing the guide book on the shelf, looking at my kayak in the yard covered in ice. Then I start checking on here and other sites looking for your stories. Next, I actually get the guide book and maps out, wishing that I didn't have obligations to hold me back. Everyone that went in November apparently has the same desease. So, in a few years, we will be back.</p> Same dilemma for me as a phot…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2013-12-18:2541133:Comment:585622013-12-18T02:48:38.495ZConnie Mierhttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/ConnieMier
Same dilemma for me as a photographer, can't spend quality time in one place without base camping. Gotta keep moving on these excursions.<br />
<a href="http://floridaphotographyfromacanoe.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://floridaphotographyfromacanoe.blogspot.com</a>
Same dilemma for me as a photographer, can't spend quality time in one place without base camping. Gotta keep moving on these excursions.<br />
<a href="http://floridaphotographyfromacanoe.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://floridaphotographyfromacanoe.blogspot.com</a> In my mind, chickees are off…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2013-12-18:2541133:Comment:587322013-12-18T02:26:04.247Zvivianhttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/vivian
In my mind, chickees are off limits to mistakes even weather holds. I am prepared to get into a creek and spend the night in my canoe should a weather hold occur. On the outside, any beach is a campsite with explanations later. This of course is in a situation where winds are beyond 25 knots and a storm forced us out of the water.<br></br>
<br></br>
Fishing...always trolling and planning a low mileage day to fish. Yes, must keep moving and if you want a "fishing vacation" get to an island or…
In my mind, chickees are off limits to mistakes even weather holds. I am prepared to get into a creek and spend the night in my canoe should a weather hold occur. On the outside, any beach is a campsite with explanations later. This of course is in a situation where winds are beyond 25 knots and a storm forced us out of the water.<br/>
<br/>
Fishing...always trolling and planning a low mileage day to fish. Yes, must keep moving and if you want a "fishing vacation" get to an island or backcountry site and basecamp for a couple of days. The option is to go 8 miles max per site. For me, 6 miles is too much for really working an area to fish between sites and then have time to set up camp. We have armchair quarterbacke…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2013-12-17:2541133:Comment:584672013-12-17T22:44:18.034ZJeremy Clarkhttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/JeremyClark
<p>We have armchair quarterbacked our trip to death. We agree that we made the right decision. We did consider going off permit, would have been bad, Veteren's Day weekend, all the Chickees were full of fishermen. We still think that we should have pulled a different permit, based more on the weather. My Dad isn't going back without a 16-17 foot kayak. Glad to know that we aren't alone in the learned a lesson the hardway crew.</p>
<p>We have armchair quarterbacked our trip to death. We agree that we made the right decision. We did consider going off permit, would have been bad, Veteren's Day weekend, all the Chickees were full of fishermen. We still think that we should have pulled a different permit, based more on the weather. My Dad isn't going back without a 16-17 foot kayak. Glad to know that we aren't alone in the learned a lesson the hardway crew.</p> If you were on permit the spo…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2013-12-17:2541133:Comment:583272013-12-17T04:27:19.158ZKim Gasshttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/KimGass
<p>If you were on permit the spots you were planning to land on ought not to have been in use. I am confused on that point. Perhaps you meant sites you weren't permitted on.</p>
<p></p>
<p>I have gone off track a few times because of bad wind and ground site room hasn't been an issue (for me party of 1). Admittedly I have not tried to horn in on a chickee. And Plate Creek is a LOT littler than it used to be.</p>
<p>If you were on permit the spots you were planning to land on ought not to have been in use. I am confused on that point. Perhaps you meant sites you weren't permitted on.</p>
<p></p>
<p>I have gone off track a few times because of bad wind and ground site room hasn't been an issue (for me party of 1). Admittedly I have not tried to horn in on a chickee. And Plate Creek is a LOT littler than it used to be.</p> I'm an experienced paddler an…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2013-12-17:2541133:Comment:586492013-12-17T04:04:42.878ZSteveShttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/SteveS
<p>I'm an experienced paddler and outdoors-person. I tried to stick to a plan and cover too much ground in a short amount of time (due to my job). I planned to do the entire trip in 8 days but realistically 10 days was probably more realistic.</p>
<p></p>
<p>My big complaint with a through paddle and everglades backcountry in general, is that you are basically stuck to an itinerary once you leave EC or Flamingo. In my case, some of the spots I planned on using were already occupied which meant…</p>
<p>I'm an experienced paddler and outdoors-person. I tried to stick to a plan and cover too much ground in a short amount of time (due to my job). I planned to do the entire trip in 8 days but realistically 10 days was probably more realistic.</p>
<p></p>
<p>My big complaint with a through paddle and everglades backcountry in general, is that you are basically stuck to an itinerary once you leave EC or Flamingo. In my case, some of the spots I planned on using were already occupied which meant changing my desired track.</p>
<p></p>
<p>If bad weather comes, and you are say heading to the outside because the interior was full, you are kind of screwed. I think next time, I would just break my plan and head to the safest option even if it meant asking someone to share a chickee for the night.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Also, I also treated it more like a fishing "vacation." and less of a mission from point A to point B. Next time I would pack more water, less wine and fishing gear, and just take in the scenery. From my backpacking experience, I think you sort of have to be on a mission and cover some serious ground daily. Sometimes you simply don't have time to take that little detour to do some snook fishing and just make it to the next campground and set up camp/eat/sleep.</p> Steve, can you elaborate on w…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2013-12-17:2541133:Comment:583242013-12-17T03:25:06.099Zvivianhttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/vivian
Steve, can you elaborate on what you would have changed or learned from that trip?
Steve, can you elaborate on what you would have changed or learned from that trip? You most definitely made the…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2013-12-16:2541133:Comment:586422013-12-16T01:37:22.698ZSteveShttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/SteveS
<p>You most definitely made the right choice. I had to pull the rip cord on a solo through paddle a few years ago. Got into some bad weather, over exerted myself, drank up a lot of my water trying to stay hydrated. Got a little hypothermic and dehydrated and started peeing blood. Decided to head back north instead of going south. Hitched a ride in with Jason from Capt Wright's outfit. Just as I got off the water, a severe storm came through which most definitely would have caused disaster…</p>
<p>You most definitely made the right choice. I had to pull the rip cord on a solo through paddle a few years ago. Got into some bad weather, over exerted myself, drank up a lot of my water trying to stay hydrated. Got a little hypothermic and dehydrated and started peeing blood. Decided to head back north instead of going south. Hitched a ride in with Jason from Capt Wright's outfit. Just as I got off the water, a severe storm came through which most definitely would have caused disaster especially considering due to permit issues, I was about to head to the outside.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Live and learn. You can always make it back to try another day.</p> Jay is - envious - as he sit…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2013-11-24:2541133:Comment:582072013-11-24T14:56:54.734ZJayhttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/Jay
<p>Jay is - envious - as he sits in a hotel room in Los Angeles. Would love to hear of the progress - Pahayokee to Rookery Branch.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Terry said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://gladesgodeep.ning.com/forum/topics/got-smacked?id=2541133%3ATopic%3A58360&page=2#2541133Comment58386"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p></p>
<p>Okay, you got it, tomorrow, Saturday 23 November, we're 'paddling' at Pahayokee to look for a route to</p>
<p>Main Street. If this can be…</p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p>Jay is - envious - as he sits in a hotel room in Los Angeles. Would love to hear of the progress - Pahayokee to Rookery Branch.<br/> <br/> <cite>Terry said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://gladesgodeep.ning.com/forum/topics/got-smacked?id=2541133%3ATopic%3A58360&page=2#2541133Comment58386"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p></p>
<p>Okay, you got it, tomorrow, Saturday 23 November, we're 'paddling' at Pahayokee to look for a route to</p>
<p>Main Street. If this can be established we'll have an exit off Shark Slough when traveling down from</p>
<p>Tamiami Trail and a backdoor entrance to Rookery Branch, which means one day trips to Canepatch.</p>
<p>How cool is that? Leave the fishing gear home but bring all your navigational gear, eat your Wheaties,</p>
<p>wear heavy pants, strong shoes, small light boats are best and be at Pahayokee at 07:00.</p>
<p><br/> <cite>Alan Gibson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://gladesgodeep.ning.com/forum/topics/got-smacked?page=2&commentId=2541133%3AComment%3A58094&x=1#2541133Comment58276"><div>Hey, I want to go with Terry.........looks great. Any time for fishin?</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote> Terry said:
Okay, you got i…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2013-11-23:2541133:Comment:582062013-11-23T06:04:09.697ZAlan Gibsonhttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/AlanGibson
<br></br>
<br></br>
<cite>Terry said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://gladesgodeep.ning.com/forum/topics/got-smacked?page=2&commentId=2541133%3AComment%3A58280&x=1#2541133Comment58386"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p></p>
<p>Okay, you got it, tomorrow, Saturday 23 November, we're 'paddling' at Pahayokee to look for a route to</p>
<p>Main Street. If this can be established we'll have an exit off Shark Slough when traveling down from</p>
<p>Tamiami Trail and a backdoor entrance to Rookery…</p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br/>
<br/>
<cite>Terry said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://gladesgodeep.ning.com/forum/topics/got-smacked?page=2&commentId=2541133%3AComment%3A58280&x=1#2541133Comment58386"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p></p>
<p>Okay, you got it, tomorrow, Saturday 23 November, we're 'paddling' at Pahayokee to look for a route to</p>
<p>Main Street. If this can be established we'll have an exit off Shark Slough when traveling down from</p>
<p>Tamiami Trail and a backdoor entrance to Rookery Branch, which means one day trips to Canepatch.</p>
<p>How cool is that? Leave the fishing gear home but bring all your navigational gear, eat your Wheaties,</p>
<br />
<br />
<p>wear heavy pants, strong shoes, small light boats are best and be at Pahayokee at 07:00.</p>
<p><br/> <cite>Alan Gibson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://gladesgodeep.ning.com/forum/topics/got-smacked?page=2&commentId=2541133%3AComment%3A58094&x=1#2541133Comment58276"><div>Hey, I want to go with Terry.........looks great. Any time for fishin?</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br />
Sounds great.....but i best be careful what i ask for right? LOL.........<br />
I'm game for tough sledding but my little solo is in Michigan and the barge (expedition) is not something I would want for tight tricky spaces. Let me get my feet wet with a few trips and then I will pester, grovel and beg to tag along on some of those "backcountrys behind" trips. How cool would that be?