My latest trip. - Everglades Exploration Network2024-03-29T05:55:54Zhttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/forum/topics/my-latest-trip?commentId=2541133%3AComment%3A70230&feed=yes&xn_auth=noPart of the problem for some…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2016-03-16:2541133:Comment:701922016-03-16T04:22:01.295ZJeremy Clarkhttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/JeremyClark
<p>Part of the problem for some of us is that we are still trying to build skills and knowledge. The Everglades is one of the few areas in the country that you can truly get away from society and be forced to really plan your trip. I learned a ton on our last trip. I also learned that I need to learn a lot more. We didn't see any other paddlers the whole week we were there. All of Whitewater bay was open.</p>
<p>Part of the problem for some of us is that we are still trying to build skills and knowledge. The Everglades is one of the few areas in the country that you can truly get away from society and be forced to really plan your trip. I learned a ton on our last trip. I also learned that I need to learn a lot more. We didn't see any other paddlers the whole week we were there. All of Whitewater bay was open.</p> I wonder if there's a way to…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2016-03-14:2541133:Comment:701872016-03-14T20:14:24.058ZTerryhttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/terry
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<p>I wonder if there's a way to help get all you folks in the backcountry, the other half of the Everglades.</p>
<p>For someone traveling a long distance to get here, what are the biggest problems in doing something</p>
<p>like paddling down Shark Slough to Canepatch then on to Flamingo or exits up near Honky-Tonk City?</p>
<p>On the other hand, maybe paddlers just don't want to get off the brochure. Even paddlers down</p>
<p>here don't seem to use what's available to them. With the…</p>
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<p>I wonder if there's a way to help get all you folks in the backcountry, the other half of the Everglades.</p>
<p>For someone traveling a long distance to get here, what are the biggest problems in doing something</p>
<p>like paddling down Shark Slough to Canepatch then on to Flamingo or exits up near Honky-Tonk City?</p>
<p>On the other hand, maybe paddlers just don't want to get off the brochure. Even paddlers down</p>
<p>here don't seem to use what's available to them. With the perfect paddling season we've had this year,</p>
<p>you'd expect a steady flow of slough paddlers yet even with these conditions you can still count these</p>
<p>paddlers on one hand. </p>
<p></p> As stated above some of us ar…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2016-03-12:2541133:Comment:702302016-03-12T20:06:43.669ZJeremy Clarkhttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/JeremyClark
<p>As stated above some of us are nearly a thousand miles away, and only get to visit the Everglades every few years. Some of us are learning what you already know. I have learned a lot from you guys/gals on this forum, someday hope to travel through some of the areas that you are already bored with. But for now, I am happy to accept my amateur status, and only get to the Glades every few years. And yes, everyone here calls us crazy just for doing what you guys call amateur stuff. "Why don't…</p>
<p>As stated above some of us are nearly a thousand miles away, and only get to visit the Everglades every few years. Some of us are learning what you already know. I have learned a lot from you guys/gals on this forum, someday hope to travel through some of the areas that you are already bored with. But for now, I am happy to accept my amateur status, and only get to the Glades every few years. And yes, everyone here calls us crazy just for doing what you guys call amateur stuff. "Why don't you just buy a motor boat?"</p> Probably because we are equip…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2016-03-12:2541133:Comment:701852016-03-12T17:14:11.037ZKim Gasshttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/KimGass
<p>Probably because we are equipped for camping on dry land and not equipped for daytripping.. I saw very few powerboaters.</p>
<p>But thanks for your friendly tips. Because I live 2000 miles away scouting in other areas is difficult. Yet I rarely use the WW.</p>
<p>Probably because we are equipped for camping on dry land and not equipped for daytripping.. I saw very few powerboaters.</p>
<p>But thanks for your friendly tips. Because I live 2000 miles away scouting in other areas is difficult. Yet I rarely use the WW.</p> You folks are nuts.
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<p> You folks are nuts. </p>
<p> With backcountry water levels at peak-of-the-summer levels in March why ya'll like</p>
<p> to paddle where powerboats zoom by is beyond anything I can reason. This late in the season</p>
<p> all the upland backcountry paddling is still screaming for paddlers. </p>
<p> Get in the real Everglades, get in the sloughs and don't come out to saltwater until the freshwater is gone.</p>
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<p> You folks are nuts. </p>
<p> With backcountry water levels at peak-of-the-summer levels in March why ya'll like</p>
<p> to paddle where powerboats zoom by is beyond anything I can reason. This late in the season</p>
<p> all the upland backcountry paddling is still screaming for paddlers. </p>
<p> Get in the real Everglades, get in the sloughs and don't come out to saltwater until the freshwater is gone.</p>
<p></p> Yeah, before we left we turne…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2016-03-11:2541133:Comment:698802016-03-11T12:02:48.814ZJeremy Clarkhttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/JeremyClark
<p>Yeah, before we left we turned 7 days into 6. We pulled our permit with the thought that we probably could turn 6 into 5 if the weather got bad. So, 5 it was.</p>
<p>Yeah, before we left we turned 7 days into 6. We pulled our permit with the thought that we probably could turn 6 into 5 if the weather got bad. So, 5 it was.</p> If you want hellish condition…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2016-03-11:2541133:Comment:700682016-03-11T00:14:01.731ZKim Gasshttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/KimGass
<p>If you want hellish conditions , today on Florida Bay The Everglades Challenge is on in gale force winds.</p>
<p>If you want hellish conditions , today on Florida Bay The Everglades Challenge is on in gale force winds.</p> We had a pretty exciting time…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2016-03-10:2541133:Comment:702292016-03-10T23:30:24.204ZJeremy Clarkhttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/JeremyClark
<p>We had a pretty exciting time crossing in front of Broad River on an incoming tide. We had watched the tides most of the day, before we went down the Joe river. Maybe we just out ran the incoming tide? We know that we headed out maybe 1/2 hour before low tide. We had a good trip, learned a lot. Swore we would never go back. We will see.</p>
<p>We had a pretty exciting time crossing in front of Broad River on an incoming tide. We had watched the tides most of the day, before we went down the Joe river. Maybe we just out ran the incoming tide? We know that we headed out maybe 1/2 hour before low tide. We had a good trip, learned a lot. Swore we would never go back. We will see.</p> My experience a couple of wee…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2016-03-10:2541133:Comment:701792016-03-10T15:42:48.380ZKim Gasshttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/KimGass
<p>My experience a couple of weeks ago was the tide was running in strongly on Tarpon.. Estimated about two mph.. it was making whirlpools. There had been quite a wind from the east the day before.</p>
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<p>IMO the scariest conditions happen at the outflow of some rivers on Cape Sable where sandbars have been deposited. This makes for strong eddies at the river mouth and potentially confusing seas over the sanbars.</p>
<p>My experience a couple of weeks ago was the tide was running in strongly on Tarpon.. Estimated about two mph.. it was making whirlpools. There had been quite a wind from the east the day before.</p>
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<p>IMO the scariest conditions happen at the outflow of some rivers on Cape Sable where sandbars have been deposited. This makes for strong eddies at the river mouth and potentially confusing seas over the sanbars.</p> The tides on Joe River are no…tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2016-03-10:2541133:Comment:701762016-03-10T01:02:16.266ZGary Mhttp://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/GaryM
<p>The tides on Joe River are not always what you would expect from the published charts. They are just predictions.</p>
<p>If you look on the National Data Buoy Center website you will see station WWEF1 is just a little north of where Tarpon Creek empties into Whitewater Bay. Look at the recent data for tidal height for the period before you leave and you can approximate when high and low tide will be on your trip, and therefor on the Joe. The tide only changes inches, but the fluctuation is…</p>
<p>The tides on Joe River are not always what you would expect from the published charts. They are just predictions.</p>
<p>If you look on the National Data Buoy Center website you will see station WWEF1 is just a little north of where Tarpon Creek empties into Whitewater Bay. Look at the recent data for tidal height for the period before you leave and you can approximate when high and low tide will be on your trip, and therefor on the Joe. The tide only changes inches, but the fluctuation is clear.</p>
<p>However, other circumstances have a larger effect on the direction of flow, especially wind. If there has been a duration of strong wind from a certain direction it can easily over ride the tidal influence.</p>
<p>Precipitation and flood control measures also can play a big role, as has been the case this winter and especially lately. The current may seem like the tide is falling all day when a big bulge of freshwater is draining out.</p>
<p>A strong continuous wind can make the water move in just about any direction, but I've only seen freshwater running out.</p>