Trail Conditions - Everglades - Everglades Exploration Network2024-03-28T17:14:17Zhttps://gladesgodeep.ning.com/forum/categories/trail-conditions-everglades/listForCategory?feed=yes&xn_auth=noWATSON PLACE FLOODEDtag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2023-01-11:2541133:Topic:1564382023-01-11T21:45:37.029ZRob Stevenshttps://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/RobStevens
<p> Allison and I were in the Glades around Christmas this year and were in for a little surprise. Around 3 in the morning the tide came up through the limestone. High tide at the mouth of the Chatham River was supposed to be at 1:15. We arrived around 2 in the afternoon. and the current was still running in quite strongly after 2. High tide was 3.5' We we arrived I thought the pier were floats because the water was quite high. </p>
<p> I set the tent up about the middle of the site up and…</p>
<p> Allison and I were in the Glades around Christmas this year and were in for a little surprise. Around 3 in the morning the tide came up through the limestone. High tide at the mouth of the Chatham River was supposed to be at 1:15. We arrived around 2 in the afternoon. and the current was still running in quite strongly after 2. High tide was 3.5' We we arrived I thought the pier were floats because the water was quite high. </p>
<p> I set the tent up about the middle of the site up and down the river and as far back from the river as the site allowed. Allison and I have gotten sort of soft and now have a 6" thick air mattress. When we put our books down and clothes they go alongside the mattress. Around 3 I got up to pee and when I put my hand outside the tent it's in a couple inches of water. Our books and clothes were soaked. High tide at the mouth was listed as being at 11:30 and 4.9'. If I hadn't gotten up then it would be quite a mystery as to why our books and clothes were wet.</p>
<p> Now for the real importance of this post. There was a Dane living in Greenland early 1900's and he was working with some Greenlanders, including infants, on the west side of Hudson's Bay. When the job was done they decided to walk back to northern Greenland. Crossing from Ellesmere Island to Greenland a 2 day storm came up and they ended up jumping from ice flow to ice flow losing everything. What endangered their lives was not the lose of guns and fishing gear. What endangered their lives was the lose of their sewing equipment. The Dane had his frozen leg amputated because of a silver dollar size hole in his pants.</p>
<p> How does that affect us in the Glades? Sunset to Sunrise in the tent with nothing to read? More dangerous than a boa stuck with Al and nothing to read.</p>
<p> </p> Water Levels EDENtag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2021-07-24:2541133:Topic:1542302021-07-24T19:55:43.813ZAmazon Billhttps://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/Bill
<p>Now you can access real time water level data from <span>Everglades Depth Estimation Network (EDEN) and USGS directly from Google Earth. <a href="https://sofia.usgs.gov/eden/EDEN_gages.kml" target="_blank" rel="noopener">EDEN Gages Google Earth .kml file</a></span></p>
<p><span><img src="https://sofia.usgs.gov/eden/images/maps/EDEN_website_map_w_legend_w_inserts-sm.gif" alt="map showing areas within south Florida"/></span></p>
<p>Now you can access real time water level data from <span>Everglades Depth Estimation Network (EDEN) and USGS directly from Google Earth. <a href="https://sofia.usgs.gov/eden/EDEN_gages.kml" target="_blank" rel="noopener">EDEN Gages Google Earth .kml file</a></span></p>
<p><span><img src="https://sofia.usgs.gov/eden/images/maps/EDEN_website_map_w_legend_w_inserts-sm.gif" alt="map showing areas within south Florida"/></span></p> Still creektag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2021-03-04:2541133:Topic:1540012021-03-04T16:28:24.316Zyakmasterhttps://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/yakmaster
Has anyone been down still creek from noble Hammock into west lake recently?<br />
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Wondering if it still is still passable post irma?
Has anyone been down still creek from noble Hammock into west lake recently?<br />
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Wondering if it still is still passable post irma? New River camp?tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2020-01-20:2541133:Topic:825292020-01-20T14:44:54.694ZGary Mhttps://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/GaryM
<p>Has anyone paddled up the New River (east of Chokoloskee) since Irma?</p>
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<p>I have enjoyed camping on the mound during the coldest parts of winter, but I don't want to paddle over and find the creek is still impassable.</p>
<p>Has anyone paddled up the New River (east of Chokoloskee) since Irma?</p>
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<p>I have enjoyed camping on the mound during the coldest parts of winter, but I don't want to paddle over and find the creek is still impassable.</p> Inside route from Cape Sable to Flamingo?tag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2019-03-14:2541133:Topic:801342019-03-14T00:48:42.815ZArnold Markowitzhttps://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/ArnoldMarkowitz
<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Friends are camped on East Cape tonite (Wed 3/13/) with daunting winds forecast on the outside.</p>
<p>Does anyone know if there's a paddleable inside route open to Flamingo via Bear Lake Canoe Trail? I don't know what's been cleared since Hurricane Irma.</p>
<p>Please email ASAP fishwitz@yahoo.com or text 305-525-0743</p>
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<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Friends are camped on East Cape tonite (Wed 3/13/) with daunting winds forecast on the outside.</p>
<p>Does anyone know if there's a paddleable inside route open to Flamingo via Bear Lake Canoe Trail? I don't know what's been cleared since Hurricane Irma.</p>
<p>Please email ASAP fishwitz@yahoo.com or text 305-525-0743</p>
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<p></p> Charley Creek after Irmatag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2019-01-02:2541133:Topic:798342019-01-02T02:09:12.608ZRob Stevenshttps://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/RobStevens
<p>(<span style="display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: transparent; color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13.13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 17.06px; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">Sorry, It's been awhile since I have used…</span></p>
<p>(<span style="display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: transparent; color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13.13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 17.06px; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">Sorry, It's been awhile since I have used this site so I posted this under "blog.") I was talking to a Kayak guide and he said the mouth of Charlie Creek is blocked. He said that fishing guides told him it is blocked also which I took to mean Gopher Creek above Gopher Key. I'm not sure if I got that part right or not. </span></p> East River or Faka Union River Statustag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2018-12-10:2541133:Topic:791662018-12-10T14:43:22.072ZMegan Digeonhttps://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/MeganStoll
<p>I was wondering if anyone knew the status of the East River down to Fakahatchee Bay. I would also be interested in the status of the Faka Union River post Hurricane Irma or where I'd find that info. We are thinking about planning a trip down there in 2 canoes and a kayak all around 17' long. Thanks!</p>
<p>I was wondering if anyone knew the status of the East River down to Fakahatchee Bay. I would also be interested in the status of the Faka Union River post Hurricane Irma or where I'd find that info. We are thinking about planning a trip down there in 2 canoes and a kayak all around 17' long. Thanks!</p> Still Creektag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2017-03-13:2541133:Topic:740452017-03-13T17:05:05.256ZDavid James Knighthttps://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/DavidJamesKnight
<p>Hi all! After sitting out most of 2016 due to a shoulder injury, I was finally able to get back out on the water last month. I decided to take my brother-in-law and nephew to Alligator Creek for their first overnight in the Glades.</p>
<p>The last time I'd been to Alligator Creek was back in 2000. On that trip, we'd gotten caught in an easterly storm on West Lake and had a hell of a time getting across, so this time I decided to avoid as much of the lake as possible by putting in at Noble…</p>
<p>Hi all! After sitting out most of 2016 due to a shoulder injury, I was finally able to get back out on the water last month. I decided to take my brother-in-law and nephew to Alligator Creek for their first overnight in the Glades.</p>
<p>The last time I'd been to Alligator Creek was back in 2000. On that trip, we'd gotten caught in an easterly storm on West Lake and had a hell of a time getting across, so this time I decided to avoid as much of the lake as possible by putting in at Noble Hammock and taking Still Creek.</p>
<p>Neither ranger at Flamingo knew anything about the route. One asked me to email her afterwards. Here's what I sent her:</p>
<p>"We were able to get through. It's a very tight, labyrinthine route that gets increasingly tighter as you near West Lake. It begins at an unnumbered PVC pipe between markers 60 and 61 on the Noble loop.</p>
<p>After that, the path is marked by blue plastic ribbons tied to mangrove branches. They're all faded, though, and can be hard to spot. A few have broken off, and I'll bet some are missing, as it wasn't always clear where to go. We briefly lost the route several times.</p>
<p>We put in at Noble at 11:30 and hit West Lake around 3pm. Bow/stern snags in mangrove roots while turning were a big problem for us; we also got wedged between roots in narrow tunnels several times and had to pull ourselves through.</p>
<p>However, we were in a 17' long (~3' wide) Grumman canoe with two adults and a kid, plus gear; it's a slow, unwieldy canoe even on a good day. It wouldn't have been so bad if I'd been solo in a smaller canoe or kayak."</p>
<p>I'll add here that I think a lot of the snags could have been avoided had my brother-in-law not been such an inexperienced bowman. It didn't help that he's also scared of spiders, and the entire creek was absolutely covered with spiderwebs.</p>
<p>I didn't note the exact water level when we put in, but we put in at low tide and still made it through. I don't think higher levels would have made Still Creek any easier due to a lot of low-hanging branches and overgrowth, particularly in the last stretch of the route, which I've seen aptly labeled here as "The Chute." That part was not fun.</p>
<p>Alligator Creek was more or less exactly how I remembered it—muddy, but with a gorgeous coastal prairie view to the north and enough trees to hang a hammock tent, though bugs were much worse this time around.</p>
<p>We took advantage of easterly winds and stuck to West Lake on the way back. I do wish they'd clear some of the overgrowth, as it'd be a much more interesting alternative.</p>
<p></p> Lostman's Five closedtag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2016-12-19:2541133:Topic:729502016-12-19T17:34:55.543ZRob Stevenshttps://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/RobStevens
<p>I don't know if this was already posted but Lostman's Five campsite is closed for maintenance.</p>
<p>I don't know if this was already posted but Lostman's Five campsite is closed for maintenance.</p> Slough Water Depthstag:gladesgodeep.ning.com,2016-10-03:2541133:Topic:717602016-10-03T14:51:24.952ZJoseph Schmidthttps://gladesgodeep.ning.com/profile/JosephSchmidt
<p>I spent a few hours here and there putting these "snap shots" together. The real-time data was captured from EDEN and historical data was downloaded from DBHydro. I was mainly interested in a more visual way to see how much water is on the Shark Slough and Taylor Slough routes. I also wanted more context for current conditions. We are just about at the end of the wet season and peak of water levels so I figured these were worth sharing since there may be some folks planning slough trips…</p>
<p>I spent a few hours here and there putting these "snap shots" together. The real-time data was captured from EDEN and historical data was downloaded from DBHydro. I was mainly interested in a more visual way to see how much water is on the Shark Slough and Taylor Slough routes. I also wanted more context for current conditions. We are just about at the end of the wet season and peak of water levels so I figured these were worth sharing since there may be some folks planning slough trips soon.</p>
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<p><strong>Shark Slough</strong></p>
<p>The route is almost 1.5 ft deeper at NP-202 and about 1.0 ft deeper at NP-203 and NP-P36 now than it was last year, which I am guessing is good for the Park. Current water levels are also significantly higher than recorded medians for these three stations, nearly 2.0 ft or more all the way to Bottle Creek.</p>
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<p><strong>Taylor Slough</strong></p>
<p>The route has a lot more water at the top end (almost 1.0 ft), which will become more of the norm since the South Florida Water Management District will be making modifications to increase flows.</p>
<p>Current water depths for the whole route are also 2.0 ft or more, which is great for paddling.</p>
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<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://sofia.usgs.gov/eden/stationlist.php">http://sofia.usgs.gov/eden/stationlist.php</a></p>
<p><a href="http://my.sfwmd.gov/dbhydroplsql/show_dbkey_info.main_menu">http://my.sfwmd.gov/dbhydroplsql/show_dbkey_info.main_menu</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfwmd.gov/portal/page/portal/xrepository/sfwmd_repository_pdf/ops_update_2016_0725.pdf">http://www.sfwmd.gov/portal/page/portal/xrepository/sfwmd_repository_pdf/ops_update_2016_0725.pdf</a> </p>